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	<title>Comments on: Snake Oil &#038; the Giant Sucking Sound</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Seney</title>
		<link>http://realonomics.net/2007/03/snake-oil-the-giant-sucking-sound/#comment-15065</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Seney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It will be interesting to see how this one plays out...  For over 7 years, everyone talked about the "wealth effect" of rising property values and equity.  Now what?  We have never faced a whiplash of this magnitude before.  In the past, foreclosures were a result of extreme circumstances like job losses, divorce, business failures, etc.  So, for the lenders, to yank the title on an occasional failed loan, was no big deal.  They had a 10 to 20% equity cushion to save them.  Now, we have entire neighborhoods and developments under the gun.  Good people, living their dreams.  1% start rate ARM loans?  Why not?  When lenders like WAMU our Countrywide put their seal of approval on this kind of product, the consumer can only assume that somehow it will all work out.  Who is to blame?  The lenders created these crazy loan products.  How can you blame the mortgage brokers and loan officers for selling them?  That was their job.  How can you blame a realtor for closing a deal, the lender was willing to fund, and the buyer was willing to buy?  That was their job.  It was NOT just new loan agents and new realtors doing these deals.  The reality is that to the banking system and the Feds, this is all just accounting.  Lots of ZEROS.  To John and Mary Doe, this is their home, their family, and their life.  I have some dear friends standing in those shoes right now.  They owe $300,000 more on their home than it is worth.  They are current on payments, but are facing the reality of their situation.  Should they keep paying?  If they walk away the lender writes off $300,000 or more.  Why not just face the fact, and write down the loan for the current owner.  Regardless of what caused the situation, the value has dropped and the equity is gone.  The loss to the lender is the same, but it saves a family.  All the Feds have to do is make a few debit and credit entries, and move on.  Can they do it fairly?  Probably not.  It will be interesting to see how they fix this one...  KS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It will be interesting to see how this one plays out&#8230;  For over 7 years, everyone talked about the &#8220;wealth effect&#8221; of rising property values and equity.  Now what?  We have never faced a whiplash of this magnitude before.  In the past, foreclosures were a result of extreme circumstances like job losses, divorce, business failures, etc.  So, for the lenders, to yank the title on an occasional failed loan, was no big deal.  They had a 10 to 20% equity cushion to save them.  Now, we have entire neighborhoods and developments under the gun.  Good people, living their dreams.  1% start rate ARM loans?  Why not?  When lenders like WAMU our Countrywide put their seal of approval on this kind of product, the consumer can only assume that somehow it will all work out.  Who is to blame?  The lenders created these crazy loan products.  How can you blame the mortgage brokers and loan officers for selling them?  That was their job.  How can you blame a realtor for closing a deal, the lender was willing to fund, and the buyer was willing to buy?  That was their job.  It was NOT just new loan agents and new realtors doing these deals.  The reality is that to the banking system and the Feds, this is all just accounting.  Lots of ZEROS.  To John and Mary Doe, this is their home, their family, and their life.  I have some dear friends standing in those shoes right now.  They owe $300,000 more on their home than it is worth.  They are current on payments, but are facing the reality of their situation.  Should they keep paying?  If they walk away the lender writes off $300,000 or more.  Why not just face the fact, and write down the loan for the current owner.  Regardless of what caused the situation, the value has dropped and the equity is gone.  The loss to the lender is the same, but it saves a family.  All the Feds have to do is make a few debit and credit entries, and move on.  Can they do it fairly?  Probably not.  It will be interesting to see how they fix this one&#8230;  KS</p>
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		<title>By: REALonomics</title>
		<link>http://realonomics.net/2007/03/snake-oil-the-giant-sucking-sound/#comment-2132</link>
		<dc:creator>REALonomics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 17:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, you are on target 100%.  Nice comment. There is plenty of blame to go around...however, this shows us what the lure of a market run-up can create. REALonomics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, you are on target 100%.  Nice comment. There is plenty of blame to go around&#8230;however, this shows us what the lure of a market run-up can create. REALonomics.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Briggs</title>
		<link>http://realonomics.net/2007/03/snake-oil-the-giant-sucking-sound/#comment-2128</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Briggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 14:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or perhaps the promise/reality of 20% annual appreciation made the buyers ignore the warnings of the lenders who pointed out worst-case scenarios and who insisted that agents find a way to make the deal work.  As in every boom, and I have experienced many, agents new to the business thought the boom would last forever and counselled their buyers accordingly.  Those of us who recommended caution with respect to offering prices were abandonded by buyers who lost out to others willing to pay unprecedented prices.  We can take some blame but in a market driven business the buyers have to take some blame as well</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or perhaps the promise/reality of 20% annual appreciation made the buyers ignore the warnings of the lenders who pointed out worst-case scenarios and who insisted that agents find a way to make the deal work.  As in every boom, and I have experienced many, agents new to the business thought the boom would last forever and counselled their buyers accordingly.  Those of us who recommended caution with respect to offering prices were abandonded by buyers who lost out to others willing to pay unprecedented prices.  We can take some blame but in a market driven business the buyers have to take some blame as well</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Steuernagel</title>
		<link>http://realonomics.net/2007/03/snake-oil-the-giant-sucking-sound/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Steuernagel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 22:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Part of our problem was a huge influx of new agents who were then fighting for a finite number of buyers.  In this fight the mantra was/is "that everyone should live the American dream and have a house".  These new agents would push these lenders to approve anyone with a pulse, the lenders of course, being that many mortgage brokers were often the buyers agent in the transaction, needed little pushing to force a financially shaky buyer into a high risk (snake oil) loan.  Too many agents for a finite number and certain level of greed by our selves has lead to the problem we are in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Part of our problem was a huge influx of new agents who were then fighting for a finite number of buyers.  In this fight the mantra was/is &#8220;that everyone should live the American dream and have a house&#8221;.  These new agents would push these lenders to approve anyone with a pulse, the lenders of course, being that many mortgage brokers were often the buyers agent in the transaction, needed little pushing to force a financially shaky buyer into a high risk (snake oil) loan.  Too many agents for a finite number and certain level of greed by our selves has lead to the problem we are in.</p>
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